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don't know why people think the correct brand name for this is Bizon but it isn't.

this was a Danish produced combine and the correct name was JF and the model was MS 90.

so JF -MS90 should be the correct name of this mod with the correct decals.

@RadekgamesPLYT i know for a fact that this IRL was invented and made by a Danish company, go to YouTube and type in "JF MS90" or "JF MS70" ans see what turns up.

i guerantee you that this is the exact harvester you will find with the correct JF branding on it,  and i would also bet money on that if you look at the XML or i3d for this mod it says something about JF or MS90.

its one thing that you want to make a model of the licensed version of it, that's totally fine, but at least include a version with the original brand name on it.

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this is a Danish Dronningborg combine, not a Case IH combine.

please fix this, its a bit disrespectful tbh.

@Jontikkapoju1 things are not always as they seem, i know my stuff, one comment doesn't change that.

as for taking things personally, not at all, but I don't like people screwing around with cultural heritage, i dont care if it's my own country's heritage, Germany, America, Italy or whoever, you don't screw with or warp history into something it wasn't or never has been.

and one last thing, stating facts and ranting are two entirely different things and wanting something to be portrayed historically accurate is not one of those things. i wonder how you feel if we all started acting like Valmet never existed and just slabbed a "Volvo" or "Valtra" sticker on it instead, i'm pretty sure you would have words about that as well.

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this is a Danish Dronningborg combine, not a Case IH combine.

please fix this, its a bit disrespectful tbh.

@Jontikkapoju1 you do know that "Dania" is/was the international brand name of Dronningborg? right? you know that?


there never was a "license" that allowed CaseIH build or rebrand combines from Dronningborg, there was however an "agreement", and i use that term very loosely, between Dronningborg and CaseIH that Dronningborg would build combines and paint them CaseIH colors and sell them under the Dania brand, exactly the same way as they did with their first deal with MF, they were also branded Dania and painted MF colors and then MF and CaseIH would get a small kickback from it, but they certainly never had either CaseIH's or MF's brand name or logo on them during that period and if there ever was, it would 100% not be the CaseIH logo or name only/by itself, if would be plastered in as an afterthought and surrounded by the Dania name and logos.


Dronningborg and Dania is/was the exact same machine, just different names and colors, the only time they switched the name to something else was when MF and AGCO was buying out the company during the mid/late 1990's and even then there were still traces left of the Dronningborg branding different places on and in the machines, especially in the software.


CaseIH had stopped building and selling their own conventional straw walker combines across europe, because they wanted to refocus and prioritize 100% of their efforts in north america on their rotary combine design instead, which lead them to loose market share here, just like MF lost market share because they couldn't keep up with innovation and technology advancements of the other brands, which is also why MF/AGCO in the end decided to just straight up buy Dronningborg to add a more modern platform to redevelop their own line from.


i just simply can't understand why this is so hard for you to accept to be honest?? - this is how it was, this is the historical truth of how and what happened, just because you read something in a magazine or an article on a website doesn't mean or make it true or accurate, even they get it wrong or misinterprete things.


i had family working there at the company for christ sake, if anyone outside of the people who actually worked there would know the story, i would and i would say that my source and the official Danish historical website is a lot more trustworthy than a Finnish site is, who probably got their information from the Danish website anyway and also probably misinterpreted or mistranslated a part of it.


so go ahead and call all the bullshit you want, to your hearts content even, but it doesn't change the facts or the truth.

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clear log?

@CB Modding don't encourage the idiot to be able to act even more idiotic than he already does..

we are not in the business of rewarding bad behavior, we do that enough out in the real world already.

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this is a Danish Dronningborg combine, not a Case IH combine.

please fix this, its a bit disrespectful tbh.

@Jontikkapoju1 Case IH never had a licens to build Dronningborg combines, ever, I don't know who told you that lie, but that is what it is, a lie, MF only build them on license until they had the capital to completely buy out Dronningborg as a company, so yes it is VERY disrespectful to "rewrite" history.

one of my late uncles was a sales manager at the company through the 80's and 90's before they closed, i know my history on this subject.

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don't know why people think the correct brand name for this is Bizon but it isn't.

this was a Danish produced combine and the correct name was JF and the model was MS 90.

so JF -MS90 should be the correct name of this mod with the correct decals.

@RadekgamesPLYT incorrect, JF produced this combine way back from the late 1950's/early 1960's until 1971, during that time as it was with many many other agricultural machinery, eastern europe was allowed to produce their own versions of the same machine under their own name, so to be realistic and honest about it, this is JF-MS90.

hell even some of your other Bizon Combines where built under license from other countries, there no need to be defensive about it, it's just how it was, plain and simple, just like you guys in eastern europe used to come here to western europe buy all our old tractors, combines and implements, and again with that, it was just how it was.

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the 500 series was like the 2000 series, it never had a two door cab, only left side door and window on the right.

the back window and side windows are too small, they should be a larger than that, and the door on the left side is hinged all the way back on the rear post of the cab.

the textures really need an update up to fs25 standards as well, and i would suggest you go look up some detailed pictures of a 500 series because the cab needs work too.

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don't know why people think the correct brand name for this is Bizon but it isn't.

this was a Danish produced combine and the correct name was JF and the model was MS 90.

so JF -MS90 should be the correct name of this mod with the correct decals.

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this is a Danish Dronningborg combine, not a Case IH combine.

please fix this, its a bit disrespectful tbh.

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